To the editor:
In response to Soo Yang's assertion that Vanderbilt should invite more controversial speakers, like Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in order to "encourage conversation" in the student body, I would like to say, "Are you crazy?"
Since when does a university need to offend most of its student population, while giving credibility to a dangerous and repressive bigot, in order to inspire "political integrity"? Call me old fashioned, but I would rather our student body be inspired by positive examples of political and social responsibility rather than shocked with sensationalist bold-named lecturers.
In light of the recent hate crime on campus, it would be inappropriate to invite someone to speak who is steeped in an atmosphere and philosophy of hate. Why should we pollute the ears of Vanderbilt students with the rhetoric of dispassionate disapproval? Why should that be the only route to tolerance? Instead of giving voices to hate, why not invite someone who is controversial for his unyielding views on human rights?
Furthermore, Yang lampoons the school for inviting Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield to campus. Ben and Jerry, as Ceaf Lewis noted in an InsideVandy posting, are far more relevant to the students of Vanderbilt's campus, many of whom are aspiring businessmen and professionals. Ben and Jerry set a positive example in the world of corporate social responsiblity and are no less valid speakers then Ahmadinejad. But they probably won't deny the existence of homosexuality in our country, nor will they deny the Holocaust. So perhaps they will not prove controversial enough for Yang.
If controversy is desired, Vanderbilt's inviting of Salman Rushdie to our campus should be applauded. Rushdie is the perfect example of a highly explosive and controversial figure who still sets a positive example. After the Ayatollah Khomeini, the then Supreme Leader of Iran, sent out a Fatwa against Rushdie for the negative treatment of the prophet Mohammed in his book "The Satanic Verses," he was forced into hiding for nine years. Rushdie is an ideal role model for the Vanderbilt community because he had the resolve to risk his life for the sake of free speech and expression. If this is not an example of political integrity, I don't know what is. Rushdie's medium may be art and not tyranny, but I do believe his book will be relevant for a much longer period of time than Ahmadinejad.
Eve Attermann
Junior, College of Arts and Science


Thanks for writing.
Thanks for writing. First of all, I am not crazy. In fact, I am perfectly sane, just as you are. I also don't think that you are old-fashioned. You just have to reconsider your counter-example (I will elaborate later). Assuming that you read the threads following my article, I am sure most of the points you raised have been addressed. However, there are more issues I want to discuss. It seems like there is a bias in your assessment of Ahmadinejad and Rushdie. These two speakers are both controversial, and I was not against the invitation of Rushdie on our campus, nor was I for Ben+Jerry.
As much as Ahmadinejad's beliefs, misinterpreted or not, offend our Western culture, you do realize there were students, specifically Muslim students, who were offended by Rushdie's presence here in Vanderbilt. By writing "Satanic Verses," his "blasphemies" against the Qur'an and Muhammad were very real and shamelessly hurtful to an entire social group. So, once could possibly see why Khomeini sent out a Fawta against Rushdie- because of his heretical and offensive remarks that mocked their cultural roots. There is also no doubt that he had all the right to criticize a religion. In fact, we need more people like him who can surpass our ideological taboos and enlighten us in such fresh, bold ways.
My point is that, if we can invite someone like Rushdie, who, to some, represent pure evil (most of Muslim world) and, to some, a respectable iconoclast (most of the Western world), why can we not invite someone like Ahmadinejad, who ALSO, to some, represent pure evil (most of the Western world) and, to some, a respectable iconoclast (most of the Muslim world). But Ahmadinejad probably will deny the existence of homosexuality in his country, and will deny the Holocaust. So perhaps he will be too controversial for you.
Personally, I see myself as a part of the Western world and realize that Ahmadinejad is a "dangerous and repressive bigot". However, there are those in this world and even in our campus who believe that Rushdie is also a "dangerous and repressive bigot". (I am not saying Muslims in our campus are the same as Islamic fundamentalists) Similarly, there were probably few students who felt that Rushdie's lecture would seemingly "pollute the ears of Vanderbilt students with the rhetoric of dispassionate disapproval." Are their sensitivities not important? Just because the Muslim community in Vanderbilt is not as influential as that of Judeo-Christianity, are their feelings trivial and ours inviolable? If they (Muslim students) had their share of sacrifice, why can't we sacrifice our sensitivities for the institution of free speech- just as they so bravely did? Just because we live in a Western world, must we listen to pro-Western ideas that we have all already accepted and silence those who dare to deviate all in the name of hate speech? Are we that afraid and stupid that Ahmadinejad's lecture would somehow corrupt our feeble minds and conjure up sympathy for his cause? If that is the case, we are being plainly hypocritical, ignorant, egocentric, fearful, provincial and thus, completely contrary to the spirit of this University.
Let's put it this way. If Rushdie were involved in this debate, I am sure that he would have supported Ahmadinejad's lecture in Vanderbilt- without a doubt. If Gore Vidal were involved, he would have simply called for Ahmadinejad's impeachment. Now, if Ben and Jerry were involved, I am sure they would have given us free ice-cream to shut our mouths and to end this debate for good (It's a joke, please don't over-react and write another article about it).
I have to say, I really
I have to say, I really understand and appreciate the point you are making about Salman Rushdie. I never thought about the potentially offensive impact his speaking here would have on Muslim students. That certainly makes sense, and should be noted.
However, I still wouldn't equate Salman Rushdie's offensiveness with that of Ahmadinejad. There are plenty of progressive speakers from the Islamic world that could offer intelligent and constructive visions of how to best confront the conflict between their world and the West. Why invite someone who in ten years hindsight will have labeled another Saddam or Hitler? Why invite someone who makes ambiguous, circuitous comments which barely mask ignorance and intolerance? The idea that we could learn from his speech is just not good enough. We need to take ethics into account here, regardless of how unfashionable they have become. Where do you draw the line between education and endorsement?
Not Fair
I don't think it's fair for you to just declare "The idea that we could learn form his speech is just not good enough." Why? If you have a leader who is usually on the polar opposite side of the globe who happens to be in New York (or Nashville for our case) on UN business, it seems like it could be quite beneficial to have an open forum questioning where students get to question him as vigorously as they like. Clarification is provided on all of his points and we learn a thing or two about what he believes. He wasn't legitimized. From the very start of the speech he was defamed. That took away any chance of Columbia potentially legitimizing his speech. In other words they called him an ass, said that nothing he had to say appealed to them, then called him out on all the crazy stuff he said. So what's so wrong with that?
Well spoken.
Well spoken.
There's a simple solution
There's a simple solution that I think will make everyone happy. If you don't like a lecturer, then don't buy a ticket for it, and don't attend. You are not being forced to attend, as in the case of the play Keely and Du which the freshmen are being required to watch.
I personally wouldn't have a problem with Ahmadinejad or even Pope Benedict coming to speak at Vanderbilt. I know the two aren't even comparable in terms of politics, but they are similar in one respect -- according to the left here at Vanderbilt, these people shouldn't be allowed a voice because of their views. It seems that Ms. Attermann has joined this group who advocate censorship in the name of defending diversity and complacency. This behavior is indicative of Soviet or Red Chinese party officials, not of Americans.
Moreover, I agree with "TheArtificer" when he says that Ahmadinejad may be being misrepresented in the media. Even his most infamous statement, which supposedly called for Israel to be "wiped off the map", was a faulty mistranslation -- he actually called for the end of the regime which occupies Jerusalem, a regime which he views as violent and unjust. We shouldn't just rely on media sensationalism to form opinions, but we should be willing to question and evaluate the validity of information that we are given. And allowing Ahmadinejad, or other controversial persons to speak, would be one way to do that.
mistranslation is the least of his problems
Mr. Mamikonian, I'd like you to compare the differences between Ahmadinejad's speeches made in Iran and those made here and then you can tell me more about this "faulty mistranslation". Oh and also, which regime "occupies" Jerusalem? I'm curious to know.
Good Job Eve
Kudos on the argument. It is pointless to spend student acc fees or other funds to listen to someone spit out his tyrant theory. I can read all about that on CNN or Fox or any other news source that wants to comment on Middle Eastern political agendas. Having a speaker is supposed to be an informative, potentially motivating, thought provoking experience that you cant get by reading a paper. All he would create is an argumentative environment that would culminate in a few editorials by ignorant individuals then be forgotten. This is a learning institution focused on preparing people to function primarily in the American world, so funds are best spent, as you suggest, on people like Ben and Jerry who can give real motivation to real students in their real fields of study. Or maybe we should waste money funding the Holocaust investigation. Comparing the study of the holocaust to physics is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. This isn't a research project where we compare the speed of sound to the speed of light based on mathematical equations and theoretical assumptions. I feel we have gotten all the "research" we need on the holocaust from tattoos on peoples arms and mass graves uncovered across the WWII war path. Lets leave the tyrants to continue to ruin their respective countries and focus on improving ours.
Comments:1) How dare you
Comments:
1) How dare you say that the world is American? Are you possibly referring to America's hegemonic position in the world or the part of the world that is American? In either case, there are Vanderbilt students who are not only of international origin but have interests and futures that lie outside our borders. Our world is international, not American. It's pretty simple.
2) Not everyone wants to become economists. But all students will confront human rights, social justice, and intolerance.
3) Holocaust is constantly being investigated as we speak. All the institutions, museums, think-tanks devoted to Holocaust are essentially researching this atrocity even to this day. They do not deny that it happened, but research is still happening and Ahmadinejad was promoting something that was already occuring. However, I realize their motives of study could be very different. Nevertheless, be careful of what you say. Funds spent to studying the darkest stain in our humanity would definitely not go to waste. In fact, Vanderbilt is having their own "30th Annual Vanderbilt University Holocaust Lecture Series" on October 13th. Maybe you should attend.
4) I just don't see how Ahmadinejad's lecture would not "be an informative, potentially motivating, thought provoking experience that you cant get by reading a paper".
5) "Lets leave the tyrants to continue to ruin their respective countries and focus on improving ours" Why not improve the world around us? I am not saying we should go to war and "liberate" Iranians. I am also not saying we should abandon all our national obligations and pursue only those of international concern. But why can't we work to improve our global village? Do you not care for those people that suffer in silence and invisibility becuse of their repressive governments? I have not yet encountered such isolationist proposal until you have exposed your ignorance veiled in peuso-patriotic nationalism.
How dare I?
How dare I make an argument suggesting that most people who graduate from Vanderbilt will be working within the Continental United States? I think that perhaps a loser interpretation of the word "World" would help you understand the basis of my argument. Clearly we have a dorm here that caters to International students, it would be foolish to deny that. But for every international student here there are literally one hundred domestic students that will remain within our boarders. Im not suggesting we ignore world issues, Im merely stating that when were going to spend students tuition funds we might look towards a speaker with a little more relevance to the majority of students here. Secondly I think the Congressional response to a proposed "War Tax" reflects just how much we really want to improve the outside world. There are a lot of third world areas in the US that deserve attention as well as countries overseas, but perhaps we need to realize that "isolationism" is not necessarily a bad thing - we can't do it all. Besides, prior to the world wars that was one of our national policies that got us up and running so you can't possibly pretend that you've "Never encountered it before".
In response to your "War
In response to your "War Tax" allegation, let me repeat once more, "Why not improve the world around us? I am not saying we should go to war and 'liberate' Iranians. I am also not saying we should abandon all our national obligations and pursue only those of international concern."
Fool
You are a fool for many reasons. I will mention one. No student funds were spent to get the Iranian president to speak at Columbia. Nice try.
Reply
First, not once did Ahmedinejad support funding holocaust research funding, all he wanted was for researchers who want to research the subject to be able to do so without the government prohibiting him. Once again, he does not deny the existence of mass graves. He just wanted further research to be done into the causes/results of the holocaust. To this day we still don't know how many people died. Perhaps he wanted to know this.
The trouble with the rest of your comment comes when those "tyrants" decide to nuke our country and adjacent countries because of our ignorance of their views about our people. Or perhaps when they fund terrorists who blow up our troops and fly planes into our buildings. As you can see, this kind of attitude served us well before 9/11. Oh wait, that's why 9/11 happened. It also served us well when we enterred a war with a country we didn't know a damn thing about, overthrew a government we didn't know a damn thing about, stepped into a civil war we didn't know a damn thing about, and now are trying to get out and don't know a damn thing about how. Good call though. Let's just worry ourselves with improving our country and let those "tyrants" countinue doing their thing (who cares if we don't know what that thing is?). In fact, I think the UN should adopt your thesis, "Lets leave the tyrants to continue to ruin their respective countries and focus on improving ours." Maybe all they really need is a guest lecture from Ben and Jerry, huh?
Ah yes, that's why 9/11
Ah yes, that's why 9/11 happened. Because of our ignorance about the lives of other people. (It couldn't be because of a fundamentalist war on the secular west and it's values, of course not.) Also, I find it incredibly puzzling that you have labeled me as a "leftist". Could it be because I found Ahmendinejad's claims on homosexuality to be dubious at best? In fact, the more liberal view would be to let him speak, something I am sure the Sean Penns and Bill Mahr's of the world would certainly agree with. Let's face it; Columbia University isn't exactly a bastion of Republicanism or conservative views. I would say my views are decidedly moderate. Why invite someone with blood on his hands to speak in a valid forum? I am not proposing ignorance. I think we need to learn as much about the Middle East, Islam and fundamentalist regimes as we can. By why should he speak here?
Reply
He spoke at Columbia because he happened to be attending a meeting with the UN the next day in New York. The idea behind him speaking here would be so we could question him as we wish to find out what his true views are.
Further, I never called you a leftist, merely said you were guilty of jumping on their style of debate by quickly labeling things sexist/racist/hate crime. And your assumptions of Ahmedinejad are based on what the liberal media, who give little regaurd to facts when it comes to these things, says.
The liberal media?
I recommend watching out for cliches that sound ignorant and simplistic. They don't really contribute to the debate. Other than that , by all means, carry on.
I would just say media and
I would just say media and the word liberal would be implied, but FOX is around, so I tread carefully.
Careful
In your fit of passion you rely too heavily on your feelings and as a result present false facts. If you listened to Ahmadinejad's speech at Columbia you would realize he never denied the holocaust. Rather, he requested that additional research be done into it. He compared the holocaust to physics in that we are constantly researching physics even though we believe those principles to be true. He suggests the European researchers not be banned from studying the holocaust (as they currently are) and be allowed to research further into what Ahmedinejad referred to as a trajedy. What you are guilty of, Eve, is jumping on the liberal bandwagon and regurgitating what liberal news persons tell you. I found it interesting you referred to the fight between gay and nongay students as a hate crime. What proof do you have that, in fact, a hate crime occurred and it was not just a fight between a gay and nongay persons. The answer, of course, is leftist heresay which is founded on quick jumps on anything which could potentially be construed as hate according to sexuality preference, sex, or race. I too disagree with many things Soo Yang said, including that we should invite speakers simply because they are controversial and not because they have valid opinions. However, I fully agree with Columbia's decision to let the "tyrant" speak. The truth is that most of what we hear about Ahmedinejad is second hand through the media (no doubt this is where you heard he was a holocaust denier). This event gave students and professors at Columbia the chance to openly question Ahmedinejad and find out what his real stances are. Although he skated around most of the questions, the truth of his beliefs on the holocaust came out. This sort of dialogue between the future leaders of America and one of the predominant leaders of the middle east (a region where many of our soldiers currently are) helps us to further understand the political agendas of the more controversial leaders of the world. Like it or not, Ahmedinejad is in power. Like it or not, he has influence over the middle east. Like it or not, you must hear and understand his opinions if you ever hope to accurately criticize his stances or propose any sort of reform. I implore you to think deeper into the subject of why this talk and talks like it may be beneficial to the United States' foreign policy/understanding of the middle east before reacting with ignorance as a result of your own fear. The reality is that the world isn't made of Ben and Jerry's and that people like Ahmedinejad are around and the better we understand him and those like him, the better we will be able to function as a society.